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for iraq from george w. bush to barack obama." welcome to both of you. great to be able to talk to both of you here. the close of this campaign. it is very interesting to hear both president obama and mitt romney look in their rearview mirror about the last decade in foreign policy and national security policy and the president saying, look, i ended the war in iraq, we are on a glide path out of afghanistan. and yet we know the threat from both of these countries still remains and there's a lot of unfinished business. michael, you get to a lot of that of course in your book, in iraq. the idea that we're done. put it in the rear view mir but there's a lot of unfinished business. >> yeah. one thing that's striking to me is just really the gap between the campaign rhetoric and what the obama administration's actual policy was in iraq because you have to ask yourself the question, what does it mean to end a war? and it's lot more than simply removing troops and actually, when president obama approached iraq, he, himself, and his team, thought it entailed a lot more than removing troops them
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